26 thoughts on “Ethereum and Base split on account abstraction after joint standard talks collapse”

  1. as a wallet dev this is the worst possible outcome. now i get to implement frame transactions for EIP-8141 AND whatever base ships, twice the audit bill, because two teams could not share a spec

    1. two audit tracks for the same feature is just burning money on duplicate work. wonder how many wallets quietly drop base support and call it a day

        1. two wallets froze base AA with zero changelog mention and users still blame the wallet when the tx fails. support nightmare incoming

      1. Chiang straight up admitted interop became secondary and people are still shocked wallets are bailing. maintaining two AA stacks is real engineering cost, dropping the smaller chain is just rational budgeting

      2. quietly dropping base support is already the base case, pun intended. small teams will ship whichever chain has the users and file the other one as a permanent backlog item

    2. the audit bill point is real. my team is already scoping a feature flag just to ship both formats, we eat the cost so l1 and l2 can finish their design debate

        1. two sprints was our estimate and we are nine weeks in. dual AA format support is becoming the new ie6 of wallet dev, permanent backlog nobody can kill

          1. ie6 of wallet dev is exactly it. we feature flagged frame transactions behind a config and the QA load doubled overnight

          2. nine weeks into a two sprint estimate, felt that one in my backlog. dual AA format support is becoming permanent infrastructure debt, nobody will fund killing it and nobody can ship without it

    3. Chiang basically admitted each chain cared more about its own roadmap than interop. Honest at least, but the bill lands on the smallest players in the stack.

      1. smallest player always pays for the divorce. same story since the rollup centralization debates, wallets eat the integration bill both ways

    4. audit bill is only half of it. every user whose tx works on ethereum and fails on base becomes a support ticket your team eats

      1. the support ticket point is underrated. users dont care whether EIP-8141 or frame transactions won, they screenshot the failed tx and tag the wallet

        1. users screenshotting the failed tx and tagging the wallet is exactly how it goes. they do not know frame transactions from eip-8141, they just know send worked on mainnet and broke on base

  2. chiang admitting interop became secondary is the whole story. frame transactions vs 8141 in hegota and the wallets pay for the divorce

  3. maintaining two native AA implementations so wallets have to pick a side is the most 2026 ethereum thing possible lol. EIP-8141 should have shipped years ago

      1. backlog doubled is optimistic tbh. we also get to explain to users why the same tx looks different depending on the chain. fun quarter ahead

  4. The post-quantum angle of Frame Transactions is being overlooked. That alone justifies pushing 8141 into Hegotá instead of waiting for Base to converge.

    1. finally someone bringing up the post quantum angle. frame transactions without those paths means redoing the entire AA layer again in three years

  5. everyone mad but eip-8141 bundling native AA with post quantum paths in the hegota upgrade is the more ambitious design. base just wanted to ship faster

    1. framing it as base shipping faster ignores that shortcut specs are exactly why interop talks kept stalling. 8141 bundling AA with post quantum paths was always the heavier lift

    2. bundling post quantum paths into an AA upgrade is also why the 8141 timeline slipped. base shipping a simpler format first aint the sin people make it

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